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CAT cams??? :O

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balidey .. thanks for all the info :)
rob .. sounds good to me :)

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will soon have options and prices on fast road cams and vernier wheels from CAT cams



ooh i like the sound of this :D

but it's the wheels i'm more interested in.

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thebiggoldfish wrote:
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will soon have options and prices on fast road cams and vernier wheels from CAT cams



ooh i like the sound of this :D

but it's the wheels i'm more interested in.


One on e-bay right now, £99 plus postage

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you could have put the link up!! :P

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you could have put the link up!! :P

Lazy git, search for it :D

This is why I suggested an E-bay Links section, its been on e-bay for about 2 weeks now. If I had the cash I would have had it by now.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=016

Its probably an Avanti item as Red Mist racing were the UK dealers (in think)

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looks like a Avanti pulley

Anyway,a billet cam for you lot
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Balidey wrote:
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you could have put the link up!! :P

Lazy git, search for it :D

This is why I suggested an E-bay Links section, its been on e-bay for about 2 weeks now. If I had the cash I would have had it by now.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... :IT&ih=016

Its probably an Avanti item as Red Mist racing were the UK dealers (in think)


CAT cams vernier pulley will be approx £85

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when u say CAT, i am thinkin caterpillar......

why i thought, thats weird

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when u say CAT, i am thinkin caterpillar......

why i thought, thats weird


yes strange name but cool products :)

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when u say CAT, i am thinkin caterpillar.....


As opposed to Pussy?

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LOL Pete.. I work for CAT, and didn't know of a division that made cam profiles for fiats!!

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http://www.catcams.co.uk/?gclid=CP-28Pf ... MAodnFdeVw

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oo thats my delivery area .. i could take my head down there n get it skimmed :)

"update" got a reply off the email i sent last night so just in case any of you lot need a head skimmed too here you go. We charge £25 + vat for a skim, £6.50 + vat to clean the head.

i dont know if thats normal price or not .. but round here thats bloody cheap :)

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Just been sorting through some old files on the PC and found this info from C&B.....

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Engine builders and tuners will find in this catalogue a great help picking the most suitable Colombo & Bariani camshaft for each specific application

HOW TO READ THE DATA IN THIS CATALOGUE?
Max lifts are shown with no clearance, i.e. they can be read directly on the camshaft, therefore without deduction of valve lash. With regard to engines with hydraulic tappet, the lift shown is the actual cam working lift. The relevant lifts also include clearances. For example, valve timing 36°-76°/76°-36° means \"Inlet timing opens 36 degrees before T.D.C. and closes 76 degrees after B.D.C.\" and \"Exhaust timing opens 76 degrees before B.D.C. and closes 36 degrees after T.D.C.\".

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ROAD AND RACING PROFILES?
Road profiles offer a good compromise amongst the daily requirements from an automotive engine: smooth stable idle, good torque at low rpm, low exhaust emissions and substantial max power increase. Racing profiles offer a considerable power increase at high rpm and guarantee performances typical of a competition vehicle. The following are some of the parameters modified to improve the performance of an internal-combustion engine through new profile camshafts: increased valve lift, increased inlet/exhaust valve overlap and cylinder filling duration. An appropriate profile design having a good mixture of these parameters improves the engine performance with regard to its use.

WHY ARE COLOMBO & BARIANI CAMSHAFTS SO SPECIAL?
They are manufactured according to the latest industrial standards with a craftsman care. They are machined to very precise tolerances using CNC machines. They are made from resistant steel utilizing the best heat treatments to get a durable product.

WHICH PROFILES ARE SUITABLE FOR ROAD USE?
In order to get an improvement in the performance of an engine intended also for standard road use (i.e. with stable engine idle and low exhaust emissions) it is important to pick camshafts with a small valve timing and a rather limited T.D.C. lift. Colombo & Bariani road profiles give good general performance, together with a good torque delivery already in the lower rpm range. Racing profiles have higher lifts and wider overlap angles and shall be used only in competition engines.

WHAT IF I REQUIRED A CAMSHAFT NOT LISTED IN THE COLOMBO & BARIANI CATALOGUE?
Colombo & Bariani is capable to design and manufacture a single piece of production runs or varying extent. We can manufacture prototypes, design camshafts for highly supercharged engines, series to be supplied directly to the engine manufacturer, as well as spares as an alternative to the original ones. Furthermore, it is possible to modify the original camshafts: we can re-grind the cam lobes of an original profile to a new cam lobe profile with better performance

WHAT IS THE ORIGINAL PROFILE MODIFICATION?
If the engine clearance or tappet allow it, the original cam lobes can be ground to a new cam lobe profile. Sports profile cam lobes are usually wider than standard lobes, due to the requirement for increased valve lift and opening duration. Nevertheless, through the base circle reduction compensated by either using valve lash caps or valves with longer stems, we can get a sports profile starting from an original and lower-performance camshaft.

IS IT NECESSARY TO RE-PROGRAM THE ELECTRONICS OR REPLACE THE VALVE SPRINGS OR EVEN THE VALVES AFTER FITTING YOUR CAMSHAFTS?
To fit a Colombo & Bariani camshaft it is not obligatory to modify the electronics parameters.
However, to get better performance it is advisable the tune the inlet system to attain a good dialogue between camshafts and electronics. For road camshafts nothing must be replaced.
In case of racing applications, the tuner should evaluate the use of new springs or valves.

HOW SHALL YOUR CAMSHAFTS BE FITTED?
Colombo & Bariani camshafts can be fitted utilizing exactly the original reference marks. For inlet camshafts with phase variator specific fitting instructions are included in the kit.

HOW MANY HP GAINS IN POWER ARE ACHIEVED BY FITTING A COLOMBO & BARIANI CAMSHAFT?
It is not possible for our Company to state exactly the power increase of an engine, as it can only be evaluated knowing all modifications. The camshaft plays an important role in increasing the performance of an engine and must be picked based upon its technical specifications and other tuning factors of the engine and only the tuner can evaluate the real power increase attainable


FIAT FIRE 1108 - 1242 8V

Part No______Application_____Cam Lift____Valve Timing________Valve lift
FF.103.268S__Road medium___10.3_______22° - 66° / 53° - 17°__1 / 0.9
FF.103.280S__Road max______10.3_______76° / 62° - 26°_______1.8 / 1.8
FF.108.292C__Race medium___10.8_______74° / 71° - 35°_______3.2 / 3
FF.114.300C__Race max______11.4_______75° / 72° - 42°_______4 / 3.8

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