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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:50 pm 
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lee wrote:
Rear light seals are a favourite, sunroof and mine had a rotten battery tray when I got her. I suffer with the rear windows leaking too but they have a rag stuffed in either corner to soak up the water


i suffered with the rear windows leaking but i brought some brand new genuine seals as i think the ones off jack the black sporting are getting to the final stages :|

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 7:13 pm 
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I found a main leak.

Water running down from the drivers side door card in to the door pocket. Cloths I'd just put in there for wiping the wet inner windscreen were were soaking wet.

I tried to get that card off but it doesn't want to come. Do I have to break it off? Can I get new plastic clips to re-fit it? Is there supposed to be a seal of some kind under there?


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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:25 pm 
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They're held on with about 8 clips which should just pull off carefully.

There's supposed to be a protective plastic film behind, could have been removed previously.

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:45 pm 
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Thanks Pete, I'll have another go.

Could someone compile a thread of the various reported leaks and link to it in the index?

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:00 pm 
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So, with added brutality, the door card came off. Pulling out 4 of the 10 clips holders from the door and ripping out two of the clips from the panel. Hardly "just comes off" :) This is one thing I hate about this Fiat, stupid rubbish plastic clips, etc, that are not really reusable.

Someone had been there before and largely damaged it. No glue in certain places, clips, seals, etc, mangled, paint in them, cut away, etc. I hate this residue of cretins when a.holes like that f**k you car. Can't be bothered to fit a new glued in seal, so leaking is going happen eventually but it won't be their problem! I found the same thing on another car where a previous owner had work done to a door and the scum garage didn't fit ANY of the plastic or rubber back in and jammed up the lock with dust.

I also just found the drivers foot well mat was sodden wet and the carpet underneath too, you can perhaps just make it out from the photo.

Can anyone here tell me how that is supposed to be fitted? New glue from Fiat or somewhere? New seal piece needed? What glue is best for that?

Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:01 pm 
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use some p.u adhesive :D

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:30 pm 
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Mate, I'm rebuilding a Cento which has been built by King Bodge himself - I feel your pain :lol:

Try a hot glue gun, silicone sealer, Evo Stik etc., plus also make sure the rubber seals on the front window are ok and not shrunk - they seem to contract with age.

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:51 pm 
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i need some seals :D

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:32 am 
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Thanks.

When you say front window, do you mean the windscreen?

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:12 am 
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The side window seals. On older cars there is often a gap at each end.

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
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yep ill be on the hunt for some i wonder if sei ones fit as they seem a little more refined :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Wet Seatbelt
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:21 pm 
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fixitagaintomorrow wrote:
The side window seals
Yes mine have that gap, it's quite large too. I shone the torch down there from above while peering up through where the seal sheet is off. I could see a water drip hanging from the bottom of the front of some part of the window mechanism.

That would help matters to fit longer outer seals.

The door catch / lock mechanism is another victim of the water falling on it through the rear gap in the seal. Last week the door wouldn't stay shut again in the colder temperature. So took out the door handle again and spray greased all the articulations in there and oiled the key barrel again. A couple of days later and it all seems good again. Last year I removed the key barrels from both sides as they had grey pocked corrosion over them and wouldn't turn well enough. Thorough internal and external clean with IPA spray and kitchen roll to absorb the exudation, some of which was the grease that lubed the springs and pins and then the key wouldn't go in! So ran some oil in and then spray grease and worked it in for a while using the key in and out many times and turning it both ways many times and they worked well again. Oil came out of the key at first so I wiped the key in it's grooves and then in, out wiped again, repeatedly for a while until it was minimal.

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